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Bill Henderson's avatar

Nuclear non-proliferation may never recover from Trump. We turned our back on Ukraine - really Obama shares some blame for this as well, but mostly Trump sees no point honoring the nuclear deal we made with Ukraine in the 90's - protection for their soviet stockpile. Iran will have permanently learned a lesson here, too. Better to be a nuclear power than to be cooperating with countries who will bomb your leadership into oblivion.

Freddie Baudat's avatar

I agree with you that we (the US) were and are morally responsible to protect Ukraine because we signed on to the Budapest agreement in the 90’s. The thing is, technically the agreement was that we wouldn’t attack, not that we would protect them if Russia didn’t honor their agreement to not attack. Again, I believe it’s downright shameful that we aren’t doing more and that under Biden we only provided enough to defend but not to win.

Am I wrong about that Budapest agreement? That’s what I’ve come to understand about it.

Patricia Jaeger's avatar

In 1953, the CIA and British Intelligence were behind a coupe to overthrow the democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran because the oil industry in Iran had been nationalized. They helped to install the Shah because he would do what they wanted. Iranians also have long memories.

Hogan's avatar

They also remember the Shah's brutal secret police, SAVAK, supported and trained up until 1979 by the CIA working out of the US embassy. The hostage crisis didn't come out of nowhere.

Freddie Baudat's avatar

If or when it’s apparent that Iran did not miraculously install a democratic government with a strong emphasis on human rights, Trump will blame them and denigrate them. He certainly won’t be reflecting on his poor planning. More likely he’ll be lamenting that because the Iranian people “failed” he wasn’t awarded his peace prize. What a pitiful creature he is.